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4-Team Trade Finally Sends Halladay to Philly, Lee to Seattle

17 December 2009 455 views 5 Comments

After the summer that Roy Halladay and the Blue Jays went through from trade to no trade, did you really think this deal would be made so easily?

It took two full days and four teams, but Halladay was finally traded from Toronto to the Philadelphia Phillies. Yes, Cliff Lee was still a part of this trade – as he was traded from the Phils to the Seattle Mariners. The new team involved from the initial reports of this trade is the Oakland Athletics, who traded one prospect for another.

Ok, well I don’t want to confuse you anymore than I already have, so let’s take a look at the high level breakdown of this trade, followed by MLBtoday.net’s grades for each team:

Phillies Receive:
P Roy Halladay (from Blue Jays) ———->
P Phillippe Aumont (from Mariners)
OF Tyson Gillies (from Mariners)
P Juan Ramirez (from Mariners)
$6 million cash money (from Blue Jays)

Mariners Receive:
P Cliff Lee (from Phillies) ———>

 

 

Blue Jays Receive:
C Travis d’Arnaud (from Phillies)
P Kyle Drabek (from Phillies)
IF Brett Wallace (from Athletics) ——->

 

Athletics Receive:
OF Michael Taylor (from Phillies via TOR) —–>

 

 

 

Phew! That was a mouthful! Now, there are a lot of prospects being traded here, but of the 7 minor leaguers traded in this deal, I could EASILY see four of them being very, very good major league players within the next 5 years. But these grades are made based on the major league roster today, so feel free to disagree…

Grade for Phillies: A-; No, this grade is not because they replaced Lee with Halladay. This grade is based on the fact that they were able to pull off a trade that they wanted to make for 5 months. Those prospects that they traded to get Lee back in July, they now have replenished the farm system with a bunch of Seattle’s prospects. Also, they were able to extend Halladay for three more years (which happened to be a must to make the deal done), although they did get some cash from the Jays. Now, they did give up Taylor and Drabek, but I feel they would have been traded at some point before making the majors.

Grade for Mariners: A+; The Mariners are trying to be for real, and they just got a real pitcher. I was skeptical of Lee when he won the Cy Young in 2008, wondering if he was just a flash in the pan, but after seeing him in the World Series, I know he’s for real. Now, they did have to give up a bunch of minor leaguers, but again, they got a legit starter to complement King Felix Hernandez. Now THAT’S a 1-2 punch!

Grade for Blue Jays: A; It was obvious that the Roy Halladay/Toronto relationship was not going to last going into the 2010 season. Also, the Jays wanted to save money and get good talent, which isn’t easy in big trades like this. But that’s why it took so many teams, and it did work. Toronto got a future catcher (d’Arnaud), future 2nd or 3rd starting pitcher (Drabek) and a future corner infielder (Wallace). Sounds pretty dang good to me!

Grade for Athletics: B; How do the A’s always seem to jump into deals like this? Beats me, but here they go again. Oakland traded Wallace (the centerpiece of the Matt Holliday to Cardinals trade) for Taylor. I think Wallace is going to be a beast of a hitter in the AL, but Taylor will help them out since he has a more specific position. Wallace may have to play first base because of his size and lack of range, so he is replaceable in a sense.

So there you have it, what a wild deal! I can’t wait to see how this one pans out in 5 years. I’ll bet the Blue Jays will be more than satisfied in trading Halladay for 3 future major leaguers. But that’s what’s so great about sports – we’ll just have to wait and see!

5 Comments »

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  • Jason said:

    Wow, I initially thought that the Blue Jays were going to get one of those Mariner prospects and the Phillies were going to get a lot less. My original thought was it was a stupid deal for the Phillies but when I see it finalized like this you’re right they totally replenished their farm system AND have Halladay for 3 more years at least (something they may not have gotten out of Lee).

    I would actually lower the Jays grade because they got less than they wanted during the season. Granted their original asking price was SO HIGH but it seems as if they backed down. Obviously they had to or no deal was going to get done.

    Good work breaking this down Chris.

  • Sondra said:

    I realized I should have responded here rather than on Twitter…

    These grades were obviously given by Professor Chris, right? :) I like the A- for the Phils. I love the “cash money” phrase! I agree w/Jason’s response too. I would grade the Blue Jays lower. I do think Seattle did really well getting Lee.

    Jason, what did you think the Phils were getting? This is how I thought the trade was looking to go. The info I’ve gotten on Aumont is not great – he sounds like he at least WAS a hothead, hoping he’s not still. Far cry from either Cliff Lee’s, Chase Utley’s or Roy Halladay’s complete professionalism. Then again, they are in their 30s and are more mature…Cole Hamels is almost 26 and he has a lot of growing up to do…I thought Jamie Moyer friending him all season would have helped him more than it did.

    What’s the scoop on Juan Ramirez? What is he like?

  • Jason said:

    For whatever reason I thought the Jays were getting all those prospects and Phils would win up with basically Halladay and maybe one additional guy. I don’t know what I was thinking but this obviously makes sense. Ramirez has a good scouting report, all these guys have above average potential.

  • Chris (author) said:

    Yes, Sondra, the ‘Professor’ gave out these grades. I must have been a good mood in retrospect, so many good grades haha.

    I probably was being nice to the Blue Jays, but they knew they weren’t going to get much. So I do think this is as good as it could have got in terms of not taking on any contracts.

    Good analysis!

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